Even the frothy hard right now realizes he’s gone. . . loco. People who’ve lived on that land, consistently, for over 1,389 years [thanks go to Anon.!]
At least the hard right now realizes… nothing Tangerine 2.0 said yesterday about Gaza. . . is worth the paper it might be printed on, today.
It is just a stupidly dark fantasy, to let him build hotels for the wealthy (enhancing his personal fortune) — on that land.
Any sane person knows: NATO will oppose it. Russia and China will oppose it — and he gives all of them the right to call his plan (correctly) an impotent attempt at ethnic cleansing.
But the hard right jokers would tell us "don’t take him seriously -- just understand that he loves Israel". That’s his only message.
Sure, sure cool story, bro.
He is in no manner anyone's serious preznut.
Out.
नमस्ते
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I have to take issue with your factually incorrect statement that Palestinian Arabs have consistently lived in the area for over 3000 years. The word Palestine comes from the name of a people who in English are referred to as Philistines. Philistines completely disappeared from the area around 600 BCE with the Babylonian Conquest. After the the Romans (a European imperialist power) destroyed Judea (which is where the term Jew comes from) they renamed the area Palestine to destroy any association. The Muslim (another imperialist power) conquest of Jerusalem occurred in 636 . With converts from other nearby areas slowing moving in over the centuries. Then with British take over from the Ottoman Empire after WW1 they renamed the area Palestine in keeping with European imperialistic history. (Arabs in the area referred to themselves as southern Syrians.) It was only later as a political ploy that Arabs in the region that Europeans called Palestine claimed that they were directly connected with the Philistines. Not to deny that Arabs have a long history in the area, but it certainly does not extend back 3000 years, and has no relationship to the Philistines. In fact, it's clear that it cannot extend back more 1389 years at most, with Christian Palestinian Arabs largely descended from crusaders who settled in the area. Jews on the other hand are from Judea (and Samaria) and despite being exiled, there has been a continuous presence in the area for 3000 years, although small at times.
I also do not like even implications of ethnic cleansing, and I hope for an amicable resolution. But I expect more from you than to repeat blatantly false political propaganda.
Thank you for the thoughtful commentary, Anon. -- and I do know who you are. And thank you, I have reviewed my dating, in the post.
Trust that I do not seek to offend, but we both know there is a straight line from Moses of the Old Testament, to the founder of Islam.
In fact, the name Moses appears in the Quran over 140 times -- he is by far the most quoted prophet. And the two religious orders were long persecuted jointly by "christians" -- for millennia.
The true differences are not of religious nature, but of territory.
And I apologize, if it offends you. . . but when Bibi smirks on live TV, as Tangerine 2.0 talks about building vast luxury complexes of beachfront hotels there. . . that is more than a little. . . off-putting.
1,300 years -- or 3,000?
This is a quibble, truly. The problems here have existed since time out of mind.
And none of this (Trump & Bibi) does anything to solve. . . anything. [And I speak/type this as a one-quarter Ashkenazi Jew here, just to be clear. Raised 3/4ths Catholic -- but I no longer follow either covenant. Just mostly. . . Zen now.]
Ahh. . . Just the rich. . . getting richer.
As ever, I greatly appreciate the dialogue -- but I'm not likely to revise much else, in mine.
Namaste. . . .
I did not expect revision of anything else. I also found the statement repugnant and even worse detrimental in so many ways. As for Bibi I've never been a fan. As for other things in your comment I have to disagree. The most significant being that it's not of a religious nature. While not for everyone, it is for Hamas and Islamic Jihad. Religion is also invoked regularly.
While I do hear you. . . I guess we will have to agree to disagree, but remain fast friends.
Rather than continue to belabor our differences, I’ll simply leave you with a raft of questions (hopefully to ponder):
As to whether religion is at fault, is it not true of every faith that some followers lose the message? That some (maybe even many?) Christians, Jews and Muslims end up killing one another (in the claimed name of their deity — in error)?
Is such depravity a needed feature of (or by-product) being “religious?
Or. . . Does the fault lie with human nature, itself — in vainly looking for absolute truths, where the more rational among us largely see shades of gray?
The point is. . . no group is blameless — across these 3,000-plus years. And perhaps. . . no human is, either? What have we personally done, to promote. . . Peace and tolerance?
Travel well, friend.
Agreed that people are people and that religious teachings can be thrown aside or twisted no matter by whom.
While I wrote more. I decided not to expound on the difficulties I see with achieving peace and tolerance.
Understood. In sum we must vote more wisely. Elect better, saner leaders -- here and frankly, inside Israel. Certainly the Palestinians need better leadership as well... but that is not a "voting system" in any meaningful sense.
Take care -- are you an "Iggles" fan? Or. . . do you want Mahomes and the Chiefs? I always like the underdogs (and have some nieces and nephews in Philly) -- so that's my perhaps vain hope.
Onward.
Sorry not a sports fan.
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