In a land not bounded by truth or justice or a half century of the American Way. . . 45's political appointee and Acting Assistant Attorney General, Chad Readler [he, of the losing side's fame (ignominy) in the DACA Cases, the Muslim Bans 1.0 and 2.0 -- 0 for 22 or so]. . . in short, a land existing only inside the lost minds of the crisis actors who are Trump's surrogates, do we read such preposterously-illogical memos of law, animated by an Ayn-Rand-ian inversion of the truth, like the below.
Mr. Readler, for Messrs. Sessions and Trump, tells us that it would be a "manifest injustice," (HAH!) one worked against the US government, if the able US District Court Judge Gee, sitting in Los Angeles, California does NOT modify the existing law of the case, in Flores (1998), to henceforth allow the government to hold entire families hostage, without a hearing, essentially indefinitely.
I won't repeat the pretzel logic by which Mr. Trump claims that it is NOT a "manifest injustice" to separate families, incarcerate babies, and deny good-faith seekers of asylum here in the US a right conferred by our laws for a half-century. You may read it for yourself, some 30 pages worth -- here.
I won't dignify it, in that way. I will, however quote the accurate legal standard Judge Gee will apply:
. . . .The rule generally is “used sparingly as an equitable remedy to prevent manifest injustice.” United States v. Alpine Land & Reservoir Co., 984 F.2d 1047, 1049 (9th Cir. 1993). . . .
Let that sink in. And while you do, consider this: the US government (at Trump's direction) wants Judge Gee to exempt it from complying with state safety and health requirements for facilities housing minors, while it locks whole families up, in converted Wal-Mart warehouses, run by donors affiliated with the Trump campaign, under no-bid federal contracts that now approach a billion dollars in payouts.
This is not the America we want (nor is it countenanced by existing constitutional law). The able Judge Gee will rule correctly, I predict, that the Flores consent decree was/is operating to swiftly release families seeking asylum (on a signature bond), pending a full hearing on asylum. That is a right conferred by due process under the 14th Amendment (after Flores), to all persons seeking asylum at our border, or inside it -- in good faith. That it takes a long time to adjudicate that right, is not the fault of the asylum seeker (or his or her children).
Finally, I must note that Mr. Readler points to the spike in arrests of families at the southern border as an "exigency" requiring this modification.
That subterfuge is breath-taking: for we all know it is Mr. Trump's "Zero Tolerance" policy -- arresting people (whole families; babies) who, even in the most stretched definitions of Flores have committed at most a misdemeanor (like jay-walking, but endless imprisonment awaits, for doing so near the border?!), that has led to the spike in arrests.
There is a maxim at law and equity that holds one may not use the force of the courts, to benefit from one's own prior bad acts (arresting jay-walkers, and complaining that the jails are so full of jay-walkers, that we can't get hearings scheduled for them in a timely manner -- so we must hold them all. . . essentially forever). The force of law will not allow such a. . . subterfuge. This is a prime example of that, in operation. Bub-bye, 45.
Everyone else? Happy Friday -- the first one of the summer, officially! Middle son's tri-, come Sunday. . . on the road!
नमस्ते
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Let them eat cake
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/melania-trumps-shocking-border-visit-fashion-choice_us_5b2c1071e4b05e0a46b72bfc
Disgusting.
I've tweeted back and 'fro, about this. . . several very intelligent people had guessed that the writing on the coat was a back-handed way of blunting any good effect for Trump (i.e., rebelling against Trump's likely directive sending her out to flooded Texas, to do "punishment" PR work), after her less than supplicant-level comments -- supporting kids -- over the weekend.
I fall more in the camp that she simply. . . doesn't care.
I think the LA Times opinion writers had it as "Crisis Actress Spotted at Texas ICE Detention Facility." I think that tag line was. . . flawlessly-rendered.
Disgusting indeed.
Namaste, and have a great weekend, just the same, Anon.
I actually considered the first option, but as I thought about it and the almost certain way such a statement would be taken, I came to the same conclusion as you did. Regardless, to present such a message publicly whether that's what you think or not, is another matter.
This is who we are - An intelligent electorate that understands the root of the problem is the parents who are breaking the law. This is a losing issue for the D's.
Latest Rasmussen Report says that most voters blame the parents of the separated children at the border for the latest illegal immigration crisis, not the federal government:
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/immigration/june_2018/voters_blame_parents_not_feds_for_border_children_crisis
The Children's Crisis Isn't Working:
https://spectator.org/the-childrens-crisis-isnt-working/
To comment no. 3 — agreed.
To comment no. 4 — um, good luck with that.
I think Rasmussen polling is... not a very good metric. And frankly, I don’t care much what polling says about it.
If someone locked your children away from you in another state, without a hearing, and fed them sedatives, without a hearing — all because you jay-walked..,
Even you would say that was wrong.
So will Judge Gee. Buckle up for November, buttercup!
Could it be that she 'just' trusted her wardrobe staff to provide her with a raincoat and 'they set her up?' Wouldn't that be sweet~
On another note; I was not feeling as positive after 1 of our previous communications but, this did help me today:
https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/12/health/changing-face-of-america-trnd/index.html
In 1967, just 3% of couples had a spouse of a different race or ethnicity. That same year, the US Supreme Court ruled that marriage across racial lines was legal, and a half-century later, 10% of married couples -- 11 million people -- fit the description. And 18% of all unmarried couples who were living together had a partner of a different race or ethnicity.
That would indeed be sweet!
But they’d all be fired this morning... I think.
I guess what I love most is that it’s a $39 item through Zara. Cheap and inferior goods... to match... the wearer...
But I still think she meant to do it — she only said, through spox, there was “no hidden message”.
No it was on front street — that message.
She’s lost any benefit of the doubt, from here on.
Smile...
Don't know how much to trust this but I read a news report the other day that there are 2 ways for refugees to seek asylum.
1. Go to an official border crossing and request asylum
2. Cross the border and then request asylum
In either case you have to be on US soil to request asylum
#2 is illegal simply because the US says that crossing the border at other than a border crossing is illegal
So the "legal" way is to go to a border crossing. This is what Sessions has suggested.
The problem is that refugees are being turned away at border crossings and not even being allowed the chance to request asylum.
The article also indicated that preventing refugees from entering and requesting asylum is illegal under international law.
International law also prohibits the return of refugees to their countries with the exception of individuals who have committed "particularly serious crimes" which includes capital crimes and possibly others.
As for medicating children if this is just for controlling them without a valid medical reason it would constitute torture under US criminal law.
18 usc 2340
(1) “torture” means an act committed by a person acting under the color of law specifically intended to inflict severe physical or mental pain or suffering (other than pain or suffering incidental to lawful sanctions) upon another person within his custody or physical control;
(2) “severe mental pain or suffering” means the prolonged mental harm caused by or resulting from—
(B) the administration or application, or threatened administration or application, of mind-altering substances or other procedures calculated to disrupt profoundly the senses or the personality;
(D) the threat that another person will imminently be subjected to ... the administration or application of mind-altering substances or other procedures calculated to disrupt profoundly the senses or personality
There's much we don't know that's why we have courts to tease out the facts and make judgements.
Good job by President Trump to finally get slow-moving Washington to move the needle on this critical issue of immigration. Maybe now the R's and the D's will work together to find a lasting equitable solution. The problem has certainly been going on for a long time, as the ACLU recently noted. The BP during Obama's tenure certainly was very brutal, especially to children. The ACLU's report cites several incidents much worse than just separating kids from their parents:
"In one complaint we obtained, a Border Patrol agent grabbed a girl he claimed was running away, handcuffed her to someone else and dragged them together along the ground, causing “two bruises on her neck, scratches to her shoulders and arms, and thorns in her head.” A 16-year-old recounted that a Border Patrol agent threw him down before he used his boot to smash his head into the ground.
Other children allege that agents assaulted them with their feet, fists, flashlights, and Tasers. In one case, an agent ran over a 17-year-old with a patrol vehicle and then got out and punched the child in the head and body. Often, children noted that other agents witnessed the abuse or saw the injuries but refused them medical attention. In one case, agents accused a pregnant minor of lying about the pain — which turned out to be labor contractions preceding a stillbirth.
The abuse was also sexual. During an arrest in the desert in Phoenix, Arizona, an agent grabbed a child’s buttocks and only stopped when she screamed and another agent approached. In another incident, a 16-year-old girl reported that a Border Patrol agent forcefully spread her legs and touched her genitals so hard she screamed in pain."
https://www.aclu.org/blog/immigrants-rights/ice-and-border-patrol-abuses/border-patrol-was-monstrous-under-obama-imagine
There is much wisdom in the post on applicable law above — and in the hopeful link above it.
As to the Anon. Congratulating Trump — you’ve been gaslighted.
Kidnapping and torturing children (against the applicable law of Flores, since 1998). . . Is not a way “to get things moving”.
It is a violation of US and international law, as his latest EO openly admits, at Sec. 3(e).
I’m truly sorry you feel the need to congratulate child kidnappers and torturers — but that’s your karma now — not the rest of ours.
We. . . Resist. We. . . March on June 30; and thereafter until all are safely reunited. . . And free.
LOL A transgender illegal immigrant heckled the President over his immigration detention policies.
“I am a trans woman!” she shouted. “… No more deportation!” The audience booed her down and the President had her escorted from the room. The President appeared annoyed that a heckler would interrupt him in the White House, "You know, my attitude is if you’re eating the hors d’oeuvres,” he said, “and drinking the booze … Anyway, where was I?” The heckler told the press later, “I had to interrupt,” she said. “I thought he would have handled it differently — the way he started telling me to quiet down. It was a clear sign that he wouldn’t listen. … I had to say what I felt at that particular moment... But while he spoke of ‘trans women of color being targeted,’ his administration holds LGBTQ and trans immigrants in detention. I spoke out because our issues and struggles can no longer be ignored."
One investigative report said one of every 500 detainees is transgender; given that ICE has about 34,000 people in detention, that would mean almost 70 transgender detainees. What a horrible administration that would hold 34,000 people in detention.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/06/26/transgender-obama-heckler-hailed-by-some-lgbt-activists/
Oh wait - that was exactly three years ago under President Obama in 2015.
Never mind.
So you concur that Trump is s monster, right?
Glad you cleared that up for us.
You realize of course saying (falsely, I might add), that someone ELSE acted dishonorably. . . . does nothing to absolve the current Primitive-in-Chief, right?
It also means you are conceding the point that Trump IS presently committing crimes, by his border policy.
Truly appreciate your candor there, Oregon!
So Obama was a jerk and politicians say one thing and do another. Granted. I could give you much worse that the White House did during the last administration.
But what does this have to do with the issue of what is happening right now i.e. taking children away from their parents? Other than to attack the perceived background of people who disagree with your position on the issue of separating children. How can anyone who truly believes in biblical principles, including compassion and not oppressing the stranger not be troubled?
The illegal immigration issue is a complex issue. Who is a true refugee who has a legal right to stay to escape persecution and who isn't? Even Republicans in Congress can't agree on how to approach it. That's why the President has just punted it until after the elections in November.
As H. L. Mencken said For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong.
As for conservative principles, this country was founded in part due to it's being a place people who were being persecuted escaped to. So let's not forget what's written on the Statue of Liberty a statue we dear as an ideal of what it means to be American.
Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”
As for medication being used for purposes of torture. That's unclear, however using intramuscular long acting antipsychotics that are not approved for children and which are likely to overdose them. Especially when there are reports of serious toxic effects in them and for almost certainly other than the approved indications of maintenance treatment of schizophrenia and mania raises prima facia questions. Again that's why we have criminal investigators, courts, and especially juries, because as the founding fathers knew you can't trust the courts or the government.
So you concur that Obama was a monster also, allowing his BP agents to manhandle children, right?
That's what the ACLU found, and we have to believe them, they're on the Left!
Truly appreciate your candor, Condor!
Gosh, "Oregon" -- oh purveyor of false equivalencies -- do you read the English language, for comprehension? Even if you claim you do, do go look up "falsely" as modified by "I might add". . . you might find it. . . illuminating.
It appears prominently, in my reply to you, son.
We shall refer to you as Oregon (or maybe just "Ducky" sometimes), henceforth -- just to keep the bidding straight (since it is clear you are using an ISP out of that state).
Namaste -- and thanks, Salmon!
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